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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:32 pm

Gave the yoke a couple of love taps from behind and it came right off. I first thought that the pinion yoke and the gear shaft was one. :doh:

The pinion seal was on there real tight... I thought it was one with the differential housing.  :evil:  Then, I saw some red sealant in the groove. I had to finally use a chisel to beat a hole in it and pry it out. I'll be taking the seal to NAPA to match it up with a new one.

This is my first differential axle initiation! :woohoo:
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:14 pm

Got the new $20 pinion seal on... used Permatex Aviation form-a-gasket sealant (using this a lot) on the edge. Topped off at filler hole once again... found no leaks. Now, I'll work on the headlights and drive the thing to get the new BFG tires on.
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby Manny on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:40 am

Cool stuff. Differentials can be a headache but glad that went well for you. Did you clean off the closed knuckle seal area (the Ball)?? Looking forward to seeing the look with the 235/85 16's on it. :thup:
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:15 pm

I did not touch the closed off knuckle seals, which I think you are referring to the big ball joints at the axle ends. I didn't see any leaks other than the pinion seal. Does the differential fluid flow to these closed off knuckle seals? Do you recommend changing them out? Thanks for the help.

Other than a new pinion seal, the only thing I did to the front axle is pack the wheel bearings with grease.
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:46 pm

Drove the truck around to get a feel for it... got use to beginning in 2nd gear and not 1st gear (granny tow gear). Then, filled up the whole in-cab tank with premium gas. After that, went to the cheapest place I could find to put the new BFG tires on... paid $42. I think that's cheap since the rear lug nuts were frozen on there real good. They had to spray WD-40 on them, let sit, and use a impact gun, which I don't have yet... I used a HF 1/2" breaker bar and cheater pipe for the front lug nuts! :evil: (Broke a HF 3/8" breaker bar first). Need to take the blue film off the white lettering, so I can take some pictures.

Some issues that popped up:
1. Truck rattles in 4th gear. The 4WD shifter rattles and taps against the thru-hole. It might be the missing bushing in the tie rod steering arm I still haven't fixed.
2. Power steering is either shooting out of the dip stick hole or out of a hose onto the inner fender. I might of over-filled the pump canister.
3. One in-between leaf is missing half of its body in the rear driver side leaf spring assembly. I think both rear leaf springs are severely rusted and cannot be saved. I need to show pictures of them, then decide if I should replace them. :hmm:
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:42 pm

Here are the new BFG tires. They look puny and the white lettering isn't growing on me... I'll take another picture of the whole truck.
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Headlights are working! I had to replace the fried ground wires at the radiator core support. The floor dimmer switch was frozen from rust and was replaced with an AutoLite version. There were 2 headlight switches and only one is good... mounting to the dash was a PITA. More info - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=64749

The only major electrical projects not finished is the front parking sockets need replacing and the horn isn't working.

Next project now... swapping in a 12V Cummins or buying air compressor to start sandblasting and priming the body. Slowly but surely...
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby 1972hiboy on Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:24 pm

I dig the white lettering. looking forward to watching your progress....your definatly bringing it back to life one piece at a time.
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:52 pm

Thanks! In the future, I will definitely go to a taller and little wider tire like some here have done... 35" or 37" tires on some new wheels. By the way, what are the dimensions of a 35" and 37" tire (example: 265/85R16)?

I'm seriously thinking of using this truck as a daily driver and finding ways to save gas. I think the least expensive and quick is getting a MSD Atomic EFI or something similar that can be knocked out in a few days. I'd love to just take it to a diesel mechanic that can drop in a Cummins... need to make some calls on that.

I cannot have the truck sitting in the driveway for months working on it by myself in disrepair. I can only do a section at a time.

Any knowledgeable input would be great on adding EFI or going the Cummins route. Is the Cummins best long term (I'd think so)? MPG for each? Topic - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64994
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby FormerMarine1981 on Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:30 pm

Skinny tires will save you gas money. Takes less power to spin them than tires that have more surface contact with the road. I agree wider tires Look better though.
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:19 pm

This set I have on now would be for daily driving. For showing off, I rotate to a newer set of wheels with bigger tires. :wink:
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:02 pm

Add or critique the TO-DO list: :D

- check DANA 44 knuckle seals
- replace slow leaking master cylinder brake lines
- replace minor leaking DANA 60 rear pinion seal
- remove trailer brake switch and lines
- fix non-op TEMP gauge
- drag link ball joint rubber bushing missing NAPA $80!, lube ZERK fittings (need needle adapter)
- replace/fix rear leaf springs
- fix power steering fluid spitting onto inner fender
- need side view mirrors
- change to '67 sunvisor mount rearview mirror ('65-66 Mustang alternative)
- fix non-op park lights
- fix horn
- add speedometer cable or go electric speedometer later until new transmission
- electric fan
- replace 2.25" exhaust pipes, add mufflers or hold off until new motor
- fix window cranks
- fix bench seat track or bucket seats
- fix parking brake cables or drive-line brake
- buy air compressor
- remove inner fenders rust; 67-79 donor or front roll cage - chromoly $$?!
- replace rusted radiator core support; 67-79 donor or front roll cage - chromoly $$?!
- remove roof rust, weld
- remove floor rust, weld
- remove cowl + firewall rust, weld
- remove door rust, weld
- remove bed rust or scrap; rear roll cage bed - chromoly $$?!
- remove stock antenna, fill weld hole
- hood lock
- add spare tire rack; junkyard
- add saddle tanks; junkyard
- hydro-boost brake system
- kill switch
- A/C
- match ignition key; pin mod
- headlight harness upgrade
- alarm
- utility roll-bar if there's a stock bed
- dual battery setup
WISH list:
- on-board air compressor
- GPS tracking
- winch
- 2.5 ton Rockwell axles
- wheels; double bead-locks
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
'66 Mustang FASTBACK GT - modified - http://engineerunner.com/vintage-ford.html
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby 1972hiboy on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:33 pm

agreed with the taller skinnier tire. it will save you gas and keep the steering easy. ( im assuming you have manual steering too)  id try looking for a 7.00xr16 or a 9.00xr16. I picked up a set of 9.00xr16 tires and they are about 36 inches tall and nice and skinny.
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1972 f350 srw crewcab special 390
1972 f250 ranger XLT Camper Special 390
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:42 pm

#1 done. Now, on to #5.

1. check DANA 44 12-bolt knuckles
2. replace slow leaking master cylinder brake lines
3. replace minor leaking DANA 60 rear pinion seal
4. remove trailer brake switch and lines
5. fix non-op TEMP gauge
6. drag link ball joint rubber bushing missing NAPA $80!, lube ZERK fittings (need needle adapter)
7. replace/fix rear leaf springs
8. fix power steering fluid spitting onto inner fender
9. need side view mirrors
10. change to '67 sunvisor mount rearview mirror ('65-66 Mustang alternative)
11. fix non-op park lights
12. fix horn
13. add speedometer cable or go electric speedometer later until new transmission
14. swap in electric fan
15. replace 2.25" exhaust pipes, add mufflers or hold off until new motor
16. fix window cranks
17. fix bench seat track or bucket seats
18. fix parking brake cables or drive-line brake
19. buy air compressor
20. remove inner fenders rust; 67-79 donor or front roll cage - chromoly $$?!
21. replace rusted radiator core support; 67-79 donor or front roll cage - chromoly $$?!
22. remove roof rust, weld
23. remove floor rust, weld
24. remove cowl + firewall rust, weld
25. remove door rust, weld
26. remove bed rust or scrap; rear roll cage bed - chromoly $$?!
27. remove stock antenna, fill weld hole
28. hood lock
29. add spare tire rack; junkyard
30. add saddle tanks; junkyard
31. hydro-boost brake system
32. kill switch
33. A/C
34. match ignition key; pin mod
35. headlight harness upgrade
36. alarm
37. utility roll-bar if there's a stock bed
38. dual battery setup
38a. add radio
WISH list:
39. on-board air compressor
40. GPS tracking
41. winch
42. 2.5 ton Rockwell axles
43. wheels; double bead-locks
Loren Pittack - EngineeRunner, Corp.
'97 Dodge 2500 - 12V Cummins, NV4500, hydro-boost, DANA 80 rear (power-train donor)
'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
'66 Mustang FASTBACK GT - modified - http://engineerunner.com/vintage-ford.html
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby hivewax on Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:47 pm

Today took some shots of the truck. Body hasn't not been touched yet. Only visually changes are removing side mirrors, brake light moldings, side hood emblems, and new tires. :thup:
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'68 F250 4x4 Crew Cab Short Box - work horse parts/car hauler - http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=60632
'66 Mustang FASTBACK GT - modified - http://engineerunner.com/vintage-ford.html
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Re: '68 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Short Box

Postby nastys toys on Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:32 pm

Really like the truck I to seen this listed for sale awhile ago can I ask how much it was to be delivered from Oregon to Florida? I'm in pa and have been seeing some cars out that way I'm interested in and want to price transport fees I'm doin a 71 ford crew 4x4 build now mine is as bad or worse condition as yours was I could put my foot through the floor and touch the ground my rear drivers leaf pack rusted completely through and snapped them in half I removed half the of the pack from each frame mount could you help me out I need to know the distance from the rear if the frame rail to center of rear axle need the measurement like if you Hung a plum bob from the frame to the center of the axle  and measure the distance from the rear if frame and where the axle line meet hope that makes sense
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