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Postby element7878 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:57 pm

Was looking through master cylinders and noticed that all the master cylinders have hook ups on the drivers side....however the one in my truck has the lines going into the passengers side of the master cylinder. Is anyone else's like this?
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby element7878 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:05 pm

And did every drum like brake system have that string like cable that goes from the top of the brake, over to the side, and down to the bottom?
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby mrollings53 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:21 am

Post some pictures so we know what you're talking about.
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby basketcase0302 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:26 am

the one in my truck has the lines going into the passengers side of the master cylinder. Is anyone else's like this? And did every drum like brake system have that string like cable that goes from the top of the brake, over to the side, and down to the bottom?

I've never seen a MC for our trucks with the brake line ports coming out of the inner side before. Maybe someone else who has can pipe in here. Here's a schematic on the hydraulics of your truck:
http://www.fordification.com/tech/image ... pedals.jpg
And here's your parking brake cable system(s) for your 67:
http://www.fordification.com/tech/image ... rake01.jpg
http://www.fordification.com/tech/image ... rake02.jpg
http://www.fordification.com/tech/image ... rake03.jpg
Do you maybe mean the small cable assembly for the wheel self adjusters inside the wheel, (behind the drum) itself?  :hmm:
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby element7878 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:42 pm

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Re: Master cylinders

Postby basketcase0302 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:31 pm

Your picture links are working fine. The MC almost looks like from a dent era, (73-79) but I thought they too had the ports on the outer side facing the DS wheel. Maybe someone else can chime in here that knows a little more-as I'm also not seeing the string thing on the wheel your describing?
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby element7878 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:45 pm

Yea that's what I'm saying...my brakes don't have the string cable thing that ive seen in other photos...I'll try to post a pic of that...kinda scary if I'm suppose to have it because I've been driving it as is for around 3 years...never reLly noticed any problems with the brakes tho
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby element7878 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:50 pm

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/ ... 759d93.jpg

Mine doesn't have that string like silver cable...on any of my drums, front or back...I can't see why somebody would have removed it if it were there?
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby TNIceWolf on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:33 pm

Sometimes they are removed because over time they cease to work due to wear. Sometimes an owner relies on just manual adjustment of the shoes. To some owners and mechanics it simplifies the adjustment by removing the parts so that you dont have to use a second screwdriver to push the tab back out of the way when adjusting the shoes. Just some reasons I have heard over the years. Not saying they are correct or based in fact.....but if you think on them they make a certain warped if slightly faulty kind of sense.
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby element7878 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:03 pm

Makes sense...I could see them rusting up and the cable not moving freely in that curved piece...I don't know, like I've said, the brakes have worked great for the 3 years I've had the truck...so the question now is how do I change my brake lines to enter the drivers side of the new master cylinder?
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby basketcase0302 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:42 pm

:yt:   Like Charlie said about the self adjusters. Most I've owned through the years didn't work anyway. In design you suppose to be able to brake while driving backwards and they would tighten the shoes if needed. In design... :lol:

how do I change my brake lines to enter the drivers side of the new master cylinder?

Good time to either learn to double flare brake lines:
http://www.fordification.com/tech/doubleflare.htm
Summit has good prices and selection on the tubing and the fittings.
http://www.summitracing.com/?gclid=CNit ... 7QodPTW9Ww
Or get the next size longer tubing with the proper ends on it, (most parts stores have a brake line assortment display with many sizes and both metric and sae fittings).
Then you bend the tubing yourself and coil the excess to avoid cutting and re-flaring the line. Be prepared to do a lot of bleeding to get the air out from those two lines being replaced, and make sure to bench bleed-then bench bleed-then bench bleed the MC till you see no air at all.
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Re: Master cylinders

Postby mrollings53 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:21 am

Who has a picture of the engine bay of a right hand drive truck?  If things are supposed to be mirrored down the centerline; it would stand to reason to have the brake lines come out on the other side of the master cylinder.
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