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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:39 am

The wheels are 20x10 w/3.75" bs and 20x8.5 w/5.25bs. 275/40s and 245/40s.  thanks
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:16 pm

Finally got around to notching the frame out back, went to a local steel supply and found a few plates of 3/16" cut to the right size in their scrap pile. paid about $15 bucks for a few of these...

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I used one of the narrow pieces to bend the notch but I cheated a little, I cut shallow grooves in it to get a clean bend, I then threw a bead over it...
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almost forgot to weld a nut in there for the bumpstops...
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Boxing plates...
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Other side tacked in...
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby elgemcdlf on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:51 am

I love you with all my heart but you broke my heart chopping your frame like that.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:28 am

elgemcdlf wrote:I love you with all my heart but you broke my heart chopping your frame like that.


I hated to do it too but I needed more clearance, I had about an inch and half between the frame and axle. Without getting into the bed floor its a necessary evil.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby RCF100 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:27 pm

i am currently starting the same swap I got the cv front from a 2010 state trooper car now I just need to get the rear end what year rears from a explorer will fit our trucks mine is a 72 longbed.  I know someone who has a 2004 explorer 8.8 with disk and 3.73 will that fit what year range explorers do I need to look at.  By the way good work on this truck.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:49 pm

RCF100 wrote:i am currently starting the same swap I got the cv front from a 2010 state trooper car now I just need to get the rear end what year rears from a explorer will fit our trucks mine is a 72 longbed.  I know someone who has a 2004 explorer 8.8 with disk and 3.73 will that fit what year range explorers do I need to look at.  By the way good work on this truck.


Starting with 2001 or 2002 explorers starting shipping with IRS, I used a solid axle 8.8. Which is what you want if you want to use leaf springs. Explorer rear ends are also fairly narrow, something you need to think about when buying wheels.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:11 am

I spent some time looking for shocks and went with some 10 way adjustable mustang shocks from Strange Engineering. I read these worked pretty good on lowered Gen2 Ford Lightnings, they were also cheaper than QA1s, also looked at Rancho adjustables. $69 a piece from summit

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These were a little longer than I hoped for but I still made them work after a lot of measuring where and how to mount them, ended up fabbing up my own upper and lower mounts from 3/16 plate. Took a while as I cut these using only my angle grinder and belt sander...

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Upper mounts, I bolted these on vs welding. Just in case I need to move them later, I couldnt commit to welding
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They hang a little lower than I wanted but its not that bad, I think my front crossmember is lower.
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I had to modify the mounts after I mounted the shocks, these shocks are fatter than expected and lower tube section would hit the mount with the suspension fully extended. You can kinda see where I had to cut and round off the ends a bit more.
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Brake line re-routed
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Also mounted up a late model spare tire carrier. Welded a lug nut on the end
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby junkyardbuilder69 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:31 pm

Great job, the shock mounts look great along with the rest of the truck, what color you plan to paint it or is that something you still thinking on ?
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby Coupe5oh on Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:37 pm

Those did turn out nice.  I've been thinking about what I want to do with my shocks too.  I was thinking about slicing my stock upper mounts and bending/ rewelding them so the shock was straight inline with the frame and then building a lower.  Hadn't thought about going to a shaft mount style shock.  That looks really good.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby marvin2 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:42 pm

i like the spare tire carrier idea...I can't remember though, are you using a rear mounted gas tank instead of the stock in cab?  If so, are there any clearance issues for the spare tire?
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:52 pm

junkyardbuilder69 wrote:Great job, the shock mounts look great along with the rest of the truck, what color you plan to paint it or is that something you still thinking on ?


leaning towards gloss black with maroon interior, some day of course.

Those did turn out nice. I've been thinking about what I want to do with my shocks too. I was thinking about slicing my stock upper mounts and bending/ rewelding them so the shock was straight inline with the frame and then building a lower. Hadn't thought about going to a shaft mount style shock. That looks really good.


thats why I made the top mount a bolt-on, just a little more flexibility if I want to try a different shock.

i like the spare tire carrier idea...I can't remember though, are you using a rear mounted gas tank instead of the stock in cab? If so, are there any clearance issues for the spare tire?


I have the in cab tank, if I do move it I'll put it between the frame rails like the aux tanks.

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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby ionlyswingping on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:07 pm

Great looking truck!  I read over this and I know it has been quite a while since you cut 1.5 coils off the front to get your current height.  Can you tell me if you noticed a lot stiffer ride and were you able to get a decent alignment as to not rip up tires with the camber issues?

Thank you.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:44 pm

ionlyswingping wrote:Great looking truck!  I read over this and I know it has been quite a while since you cut 1.5 coils off the front to get your current height.  Can you tell me if you noticed a lot stiffer ride and were you able to get a decent alignment as to not rip up tires with the camber issues?

Thank you.


I never drove it before cutting the coils and I havent got around to getting an alignment either.
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby Bigblock514 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:45 pm

I picked up a short box today. So just how much did you have to cut out of the frame exactly? Are your rear wheels centered in the wheelwells?
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Re: 72 F100 project, longbed to short conv, CV swap, 20s

Postby JG F100 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:22 pm

Bigblock514 wrote:I picked up a short box today. So just how much did you have to cut out of the frame exactly? Are your rear wheels centered in the wheelwells?


I cut 16" behind the can and 4" after the rear wheels.
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