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Attached is a picture of a garage I am planning on building. The original plan is for a 36' by 24' garage, I would have it modified to be 36' by 30'. The center bay would be high enough for a two or four post lift and the plan is simple enough that I can afford it. Any input on this being a good or bad design would be appreciated. I am a little concerned about putting the lift in the middle of my new shop, but the ceiling kind of limits where it can be located. I could make the shop smaller and locate the lift outside, but it gets a little cold and wet here in the winter.
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hummm.....I think I have to use trusses to span 36 feet and I am restricted to 22 feet total height above natural grade, county ordinance. I will check with the truss company, I know one of the owners, and I will see if I can do a salt box type of roof. That would be two-thirds to three-quarters of the roof sloping one way and the rest the opposite. That would give me the height on one side. The other thing I failed to mention is that I want to put solar panels on the south side. My electric bill runs $400 to $500 a month with the worst being $800. Solar should help that bill come down. In California we can sell electricity to the power company during the day and buy it back at one-third in the off hours. That is why I chose that type of roof the drawing has, half of the roof faces south, but a longer slope on one side would be even better!

I might use three regular garage doors, but want to frame it so any future buyer of my property would be able to put in a big door for an RV, more resale value. Of course the hoist would have to come out. I know a guy from church with who sells garage doors and he has a model that rolls up and has the door opener built right in. Leaves the ceiling space open. His price is competitive.

I am getting close to making this happen, even have a good faith estimate from the bank on a refinance loan.

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How much you think it will cost you?????
I would bet cement would be one of the biggest costs involved!
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My budget is $50,000. I hope that is enough, because that is about all I can rationalize. I want insulation, sheetrock, and lost of electrical outlets. I can do most of the wiring myself, but I don't do sheetrock as it takes lots of practice to be fast and good. Not to mention the height of the ceiling makes it more of a pros job.
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thats going to be a load of cash for cement. I would start calling and all. I know a guy over on pirate4x4 that has that much in cement alone.
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If I read all that correct, why can't you modify the height 3 ft taller to make room for the hoist on one side? the walls are already 9', so that would make them 12', tall enough for a hoist under them.
Not to mention the added wall space all around.
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I like the idea of twelve foot walls. I will have to check into what that does to my building costs...... As for the concrete, am I missing something here? At $130 per yard, I figure I will spend about $4000 without labor. That figure is with four inch slab and some perimeter foundation walls because the site isn't level.
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Personally i dont think 8ft wide doors are wide enough!! On my house we have 10 ft wide doors and it still seems tight going through them!! Obviously you can get almost any vehicle through but it is kinda a pain if you dont hit it right exactly the first time!!! And also on the "man door" on the side id make it so you can put a full depth work bench behind the door cause if not you lose 3' of bench space (this is of course if you are planning on putting benches against the back wall)! and 23 feet isnt very deep at all, ours is 30 feet deep and my 68 lwb has about 10 ft in front of it so a little deeper will probably be better and really it shouldnt cost that much more to add a feww feet in depth!!!
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Troy, Good catch. The man-door will have to go closer to the garage doors or I will lose workbench space. The plan is to make it 36 wide and 30 deep. I am not certain I can do that with my budget, but I am still collecting numbers. I will go for size first and worry about insulation and paneling later, if I must. The width of the garage doors is somewhat limited by the width of the garage and the location of the lift (budget permitting), but I agree eight feet is narrow, in fact the garage on my house has nine feet and it is tight for a Ford Ranger our our minivan.
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My family just went through building our garage so I had to go through this and there are some thing i would have changed looking back. and those that i ppointed out where some of the things we changed during construction!!!! Thank God!!!! OH well you'll like it when its done no matter wat happens!!!!
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Looki into local regulations about having a lift. In some places there are environmental policies that come into effect if you have a lift - they require you to have good oil desposal, etc, because they assume you will be working on cars and spilling nasty things. Of course, you could just not tell anyone.
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I thought the whole thing was only $89.95 with shipping. :D
Looks great. Anything would be better than my garage.
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I have been looking at different lifts and finally called a company that sells them on ebay. He was very helpful and pointed out something that I hadn't thought about. If I put a two post lift in the outside bay of my garage the controls would be right up against the wall and I would have a hard time walking around the lift. I have a friend who has a four post outside and his can be rolled around by two people when it has a car on it! One person can roll it without a car. That would be kool, but I don't want a roll around lift inside my garage. Well right now I am back to thinking about putting the two post inside and in the center bay. Now I just have to research roll-up doors and door sizes. What I want in door size seems to exceed my 36 foot width......Do I hear 40 feet.....could be, I must check my budget.
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I would think you could do it for your budget easily I put up a 30 by 60 with living quarters for about 60k 18 ft eves
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I don't know if this is for you but I intend on building
one of these homes and garage. Check out:

http://www.monolithic.com

Here is an example of what a monolithic dome shop might look like.
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